Vilka följder kan rondellhundsdebatten leda till? Frågan är verkligen vilka prognoser som är de riktiga. Mohamed Omar har idag ställt sin i Uppsala Nya Tidning:
”…anser jag och många muslimer med mig att det är oetiskt att publicera eller sprida bilder vilka ytterligare spär på islamofobin och misstänkliggör muslimer. De som drabbas är ”Leila” som tar hand om våra gamla, ”Mustafa” som kör taxi och ”Fatima” som pluggar till ingenjör vid Uppsala universitet.”
Och läser man vad den andre kombattanten i den tidigare debattduon, Hoomar Anvari skriver på sin blogg förstår man att han har svårigheten att hålla isär Vilks, Sverigedemokraterna och antisemitism.
De båda har problem med att saken kan bli missförstådd – och har själva svårigheter med förståelsen. Omars uppräkning av de folkliga representanterna är en omsorg som uppifrån och neråt vilar över hela demokratin. En komplex debatt där det man ser inte nödvändigtvis är det man omedelbart tror, sådant blir komplicerat för den ovane. Men inte fullt så svårt är det för den intellektuelle och den halvintellektuelle. Uppdelningen är viktig eftersom den visar att en diskussionsgrupp som i bästa fall kan hålla en given nivå är något sammansatt. ”Halvintellektuell” definieras enligt min förläggare som den som kan läsa såväl Frantz Fanon och Giorgio Agamben som att finna glädje i bingospel.
Om ni tillåter (och det får ni väl göra) vill jag skjuta in ett intressant uttalande som min förläggare gjorde häromdagen. Han har förstått att dagens konst handlar om socialkritik och när vi språkade om detta menade han: ”Jag slås av att det är så stora ämnen som konsten tar i sig an. Det verkar inte som om någon av alla dessa konstbiennaler har ett tema om ändringar i våra pensionsförsäkringar.” Jag hade faktiskt aldrig tänkt i de banorna. Konsten tar alltid för sig av de stora och naturligtvis omöjliga frågorna. Som jag nämnde igår har Göteborgsbiennalen precis öppnat med temat ”Om politikens begränsningar och motståndets möjligheter”. Kanske en bättre publikkontakt och ökat inflytande kunde komma med temat: ”Om pensionsförsäkringens begränsningar och dess möjligheter”.
Nå, saken handlade om de hel- och halvintellektuella som inte tycks se någon annan möjlighet än att rekommendera ett politiskt korrekt uppträdande i officiellt tal och skrift – för det oförstående folkets skull. Strategin kan vara felaktig. Måhända är det bättre med ”Släpp åsikterna loss, det är vår!”
Dagens bild visar rondellhunden profeten Muhammed som lämnat sin favoritrondell vid Vanadisplan och lufsat hela vägen till Råsunda. Han stödjer nu helhjärtat AIK och Black Army för att kunna skapa större förståelse för islam i dessa kretsar. Profeten har med sig en banan som han enligt Black Armys traditioner lägger ner på den plats där Djurgårdens Pa Dembo Touray skall vakta målet.
me cago en ti lars vikkkkkkkkkggfafsdrash hijo de puta maricon tu putos padres son los perros
silly dog:
it is very little days you will hope that you had been a sand (in last day).
and you have to know that prophet Mohammad more love to us than ourselves, and no silly thing like you will change that but will increas our love to him, becaous no person had been born like MOHMMAD.
MohaMMad is the messenger of Allah to all human beings, the messenger of peace, of morality,and fairness. And those just having open brains whome love him.
but you are a sick silly one. you will find a hard punishment in life and last day, you will hope to be a sand, then, we will look and laugh so much.
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Humanist:
Vill bara rätta dig lite. Är själv djurgårdare och väldigt inbiten sådan. Bananerna som kastas in av de andra gängen, har inget med hudfärg att göra öht. Läs på lite, blir så lätt fel annars. Det har att göra med kopplingen rent geografiskt. Djurgården/Skansen etc… På skansen finns det apor och de finner det otroligt nöjsamt att därefter kalla oss för just apor. OAVSETT om man är svart/vit/genomskinlig eller osynlig. Det har fått för stora proportioner och personligen bryr jag mig inte om det. Men det är så det står till med denna ”tradition”. De får slänga hur mycket bananer de vill. Vi sopar ändå banan med dom.
I övrigt så tycker jag att herr Vilks ska stå på sig. Vad håller människor på med e.g? Fan, tyck och tänk lite själv och låt er inte styras av en jävla bok, full med lögner och halvsanningar. Börja lev för fan. Religion har flera fördelar, BETYDLIGT fler nackdelar. Fram för åsiktsfrieheten!
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Moslim brothers!
Visit my blog and see how young danish people convert to Islam!
imamislam.blogspot.com
Allahu Akbar Denmark
alahoma ikhsif bihimalrd wadamir a3daa habibika almostafa yaaaaaaaaarab alahoma yatim nisaahom wayatim awladahom yarahmno yarahim
Check your Caricature by me Lars
http://caricatooz.blogspot.com/2007/09/blog-post_25.html
7asbya allah o ne3ma elwakeel …
ur a big loser … cuz ur not muslim ..
God bless us (only muslims)
soo when u die u will see how’s the one in the right way ..
& remember ur the loser
fuck all that is not amuslim
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Ändamålen helgar aldrig medlen. Du kommer att förstå detta.
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hhhhhhhh…..
What of the suck people?
Do what you like…..
But after you will die…..
you will know who is the real God……
Allah or your geez………
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you will go to hill why you do that islam and mohamed didnot do any thing to you!!!
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The great ideas of the West: rationalism, self-criticism, the disinterested search for truth, the separation of church and state, the rule of law, equality before the law, freedom of conscience, thought and expression, human rights and liberal democracy, quite an achievement surely for any civilization, remain the best and perhaps the only means for all people no matter what race or creed to reach their full potential and live in freedom. That is why Western values on which is self evident economic, social, political, scientific and cultural success is based are clearly superior to any other devised by humankind.
However, when these values have been adopted by other societies similar benefits have accrued to its citizens, as in Japan and South Korea. Liberty, the second great panel in the triptych is also an immense human idea. It is embodied in the magnificent creation of human rights. Human rights are I believe universal, that transcend local or ethno-centric values and confer equal dignity and value to all humanity regardless of sex, ethnicity, sexual preferences and religion. I also believe it is in the West that they are most respected. It is the west that has liberated women, racial minorities, religious minorities, gays and lesbians, to an extent unimaginable 60 years ago. It is in the west that their rights are recognized and defended. In the west we are free to think what we want, to read what we want, to practice our religion, to live lives of our own choosing.
The notion of human rights and freedom were I believe there at the dawn of western civilization, as ideals at least, and further developed during the Enlightenment but are only now coming to fruition in the 21st century as a result of a series of supreme acts of self criticism, acts of self criticism that led to greater freedom for a greater number of people. It was the West that took steps to abolish slavery. The cause for the abolition of slavery did not resonate in black Africa where rival African tribes took black prisoners to be sold in the West. By contrast, stoning to death someone for adultery is a clear violation of the human rights of the individuals concerned. Punishments, laws concerning inheritance and the rights of women prescribed by the Sharia (Islamic law) also fragrantly violate the human rights of individuals. Under Islamic law women are not free to marry whom they wish, homosexuals are killed, apostates are to be executed. The Qur’an is not a rights respecting document.
Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness defines succinctly the attractiveness and superiority of western civilization. We are free in the West to choose. We have real choice to pursue our own desires. We are free to set the goals and contents of our own lives. The West is made up of individuals who are free to decide what meaning to give to their lives. In short, the glory of the West is that life is an open book while under islam life is a closed book. Everything has been decided for you. God and the holy law set limits on the possible agenda of your life. In many non-Western countries especially islamic ones, we are not free to read what we want. In Saudi Arabia, muslims are not free to convert to christianity and christians are not free to practice their faith, all clear violations of article 18 of the universal declaration of human rights.
This desire for knowledge, no matter where it leads, inherited from the Greeks, has led to another institution that is unequal or very rarely equal outside the West: the university. Here, the outside world recognizes the superiority. It comes to the West to learn not only about sciences developed in the West in the last 500 years in all departments of physics, biology and chemistry, but also of their own culture. We come to the West to learn of the Eastern civilizations and languages. Easterners come to Oxford, Cambridge or Harvard and Yale, the Sorbonne or Heildelberg to receive their doctorates because they confer prestige unrivaled by similar doctorates from the third world countries.
A culture that gave the world spiritual creations of the classical music of Mozart, Beethoven, Bach and Schubert, the paintings of Michaelangelo and Rafael, Da Vinci and Rembrandt does not need lessons from societies whose idea of spirituality is a heaven peopled with female virgins for the use of men whose idea of heaven resembles a cosmic brothel. The West has given the world rather simply a novel ideal. To paraphrase Alan Coles: instead of the rigid inhuman caste system in India we have unparalleled social mobility in the West. Western society is a society of ever richer, more varied, more productive, more self defining and more satisfying lives. It is a society of boundless private charity. It is a society that broke on behalf of merit the seemingly eternal chains of station by birth. The West has given us the liberal miracle of individual rights, individual responsibility, merit and human satisfaction.
In contrast to the mind numbing certainties and rules of islam, western civilization offers what Russell once called liberating doubt which leads to the methodological principles of scientific skepticism. Politics, as much science, decides by tentative steps of trial and error, open discussion, criticism and self-correction. One could characterize the difference between the West and the rest as a difference in epistemological principles. Western institutions such as universities, research institutes and libraries are, at least ideally, independent academies which enshrine these epistemological norms and where the pursuit of truth is conducted in a spirit of disinterested inquiry free from political pressures.
In other words, behind the success of modern western societies with their science and technology, and their open institutions lies a distinct way of looking at the world, interpreting it and recognition and rectifying of the problems besetting them. Problems are lifted out of the religious sphere and treated as empirical problems whose solutions lie in rational procedures open to rational and thus objective criticism, not in an appeal to revelation. The whole edifice of modern science and its methodology is one of Western man’s greatest gifts to the World.
But the west did not only give us just about every scientific discovery for the last 500 years, from electricity to computers, but gave us, thanks to its humanitarian impulses, the Red Cross, Doctors without frontiers or borders, Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International. It is the West that provides the bulk of the aid to beleaguered Darfur, Islamic countries are conspicuous by their absence. The West does not need lectures of the superior virtue of societies in which women are kept in subjection, endure genital mutilation, are stoned to death for alleged adultery, have acid thrown on their faces, are married off against their will at the age of nine or where the human rights of those considered to belong to lower castes are denied. The West does not need sanctimonious homilies from societies that cannot provide clean drinking water for its citizens, that cannot provide sewage systems, that cannot educate its citizens leaving quoted forty to fifty percent illiterate, that makes no provisions for the handicapped. From societies that have no sense of the common good, civic duty, civic responsibility, and civic accountability. From societies that are riddled with corruption.
Moreover, the rest of the world recognizes the superiority of the West. It is to the West that millions of refugees from theocratic or totalitarian regimes flee appreciating the West tolerance and political freedom. Millions risk their lives trying to get to the West not to Saudi Arabia or Iran or Pakistan. Second, no western politician would be able to get away with the kind of racist remarks made by Mahatir, Malaysian leader . No western politician could survive in office. There would be calls for his or her resignation from third world leaders themselves but also from western media and other intellectuals. Yet we will tolerate Mahatir’s anti-semitic diatribes. Double standards? Yes but also a tacit acknowledgement that we expect higher ethical standards from the West.
There are no jokes in Islam as Khomeini once famously said. The West is able to look at its foibles and laugh to make fun of its fundamental principles. But there is no equivalent as yet of Monty Python’s “Life of Brian”. Can we look forward to “The Life of Mo” or “Half of Mo”.
Finally when Chinese students tried and died for democracy in Tiananmen Square, they brought with them not representations of Confucius or Budha but a model of the statue of Liberty. Thank you.
i know you a bad human body you dont know the life and human people you dont know any thing who is found you who is right how you make this shame your western countries realy wait hurtness or comeback to your heart your god allah you hurt massengers shaaame and after god hoooow salam alekom
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hehehehehehehehe
becarful stupid man
the hill is waiting for you
no more feeling safe
For your God and Shell’ll pick you up at your fingertips, taking folk returned and Pharaoh, and Korah Azbk severe punishment before Motk
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