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	<title>Kommentarer till Del 370: Innanför och utanför konstvärlden</title>
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		<title>Av: Kunstavisen &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Rondelljakten</title>
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		<title>Av: Moesha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moesha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 07:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DU BORDE VERKLIGEN SKÄMMAS SOM SKRIVER SÅDANT OM VÅR PROFET OCH UPPENBARLIGEN HAR DU ALDRIG HÖRT ORDET RESPEKT. DET ÄR YTTERLIAGRE EN SAK SOM JAG INTE FÖRSTÅR HOS LARS VILKS BETENDE. ORDET RESPEKT TYCKS INTE FINNAS I HANS VOKABULÄR HELLER. DET FINNS MYCKET VI KAN GÖRA MEN SOM VI INTE GÖR FÖR ATT VI RESPEKTERAR FOLK. DET MEST DUMMA ÄR ATT DU AVBILDAR VÅR PROFET. VARFÖ INTE RITA EN BILD PÅ DIN MAMMA? DET GÄLELR ER BÅDA, MOHAMMED OMAR ELELR VAD FAAN DU KALLAR DIG OCH DIG OCKSÅ LARS. SKULLE JAG TECKNA EN PORNOGRAFISK BILD PÅ LARS OCH HANS NÄRA SKULLE JAG MINSANN BLI STÄMD. MEN ATT AVBILDA PROFETEN DET ÄR TYDLIGEN HELT OKEJ. OCH DU, MOHAMMED OMAR, MÅ DU LEVA I 500 ÅR OCH FÅ LIDA NÅGOT ENORMT. DU VET SAKER OCH TING KOMMER ALLTID TILLBAKA TILL EN FÖRR ELLER SENARE.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DU BORDE VERKLIGEN SKÄMMAS SOM SKRIVER SÅDANT OM VÅR PROFET OCH UPPENBARLIGEN HAR DU ALDRIG HÖRT ORDET RESPEKT. DET ÄR YTTERLIAGRE EN SAK SOM JAG INTE FÖRSTÅR HOS LARS VILKS BETENDE. ORDET RESPEKT TYCKS INTE FINNAS I HANS VOKABULÄR HELLER. DET FINNS MYCKET VI KAN GÖRA MEN SOM VI INTE GÖR FÖR ATT VI RESPEKTERAR FOLK. DET MEST DUMMA ÄR ATT DU AVBILDAR VÅR PROFET. VARFÖ INTE RITA EN BILD PÅ DIN MAMMA? DET GÄLELR ER BÅDA, MOHAMMED OMAR ELELR VAD FAAN DU KALLAR DIG OCH DIG OCKSÅ LARS. SKULLE JAG TECKNA EN PORNOGRAFISK BILD PÅ LARS OCH HANS NÄRA SKULLE JAG MINSANN BLI STÄMD. MEN ATT AVBILDA PROFETEN DET ÄR TYDLIGEN HELT OKEJ. OCH DU, MOHAMMED OMAR, MÅ DU LEVA I 500 ÅR OCH FÅ LIDA NÅGOT ENORMT. DU VET SAKER OCH TING KOMMER ALLTID TILLBAKA TILL EN FÖRR ELLER SENARE&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>Av: Aslan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aslan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 19:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Till Muhammed Ali!

Du är en rasistisk IDIOT!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Till Muhammed Ali!</p>
<p>Du är en rasistisk IDIOT!!!</p>
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		<title>Av: Mohamed Ayad</title>
		<link>http://www.vilks.net/2007/08/22/del-370-innanfor-och-utanfor-konstvarlden/comment-page-1/#comment-32879</link>
		<dc:creator>Mohamed Ayad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 19:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Av: Muhammed Ali</title>
		<link>http://www.vilks.net/2007/08/22/del-370-innanfor-och-utanfor-konstvarlden/comment-page-1/#comment-32870</link>
		<dc:creator>Muhammed Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 17:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Läs nedan , vad säger du om att di profet var en pedofil.



MUHAMMAD, AISHA, ISLAM, AND CHILD BRIDES

 

 

            INTRODUCTION

 

Muhammad was 52 and Aisha was 9 when they married and sexually consummated their marriage.  Muhammad followed an Arab custom in marrying a child who had her first menstrual cycle.  This action must be questioned, regardless of it being a cultural norm, because Muhammad&#039;s action and teachings on marriage established an Islamic precedent:  a girl is judged an adult following her first menses, and is eligible for marriage and sexual relations.  Thus Muslim men are allowed to marry and have intercourse with young girls who have happened to have an early first menstrual cycle.  As will be shown, this leads to physical and psychological damage to the child.

 

Muhammad&#039;s first wife - Khadija, died a few years before he fled to Medina.  Later, he was encouraged to take another wife.  At the age of 49 he was betrothed to Aisha, age six.  Aisha was his closest friend&#039;s, Abu Bakr&#039;s, daughter.  At that time, she had already been betrothed to another man but by mutual consent the betrothal was dissolved.  Three years later, following her first menstrual cycle, he then formally married and sexually consummated his marriage with her. 

 

Most Western people know it is not in a 9 year old girl&#039;s best interest to engage in marriage and sexual relations with a 52 year old man, regardless of the cultural setting.  We know that, in our culture today, a person doing such a thing could possible be sent to prison for sex with a minor, statutory rape, or other related laws.  Most of us find it questionable for Muhammad, a self proclaimed prophet of God, to do such a thing.  We expect a real prophet to know better, or at least hear from God on the matter.

 What is more critical than Muhammad&#039;s single action with Aisha is that he taught that a girl is considered an adult following her first menstrual cycle.  He also taught that his followers were to follow his &quot;sunnah&quot; or lifestyle.  Thus today, throughout much of the Mideast, girls as young as nine are often married by men old enough to be their grandfather.

 

But why then do we find it objectionable?   After all, Muhammad did not live in our culture or under our law.  He lived under a Semitic culture.  And this custom of marrying girls after their first menses existed in the Mideast long before Muhammad.  What is the basis for rejection of this Semite custom and Muhammad&#039;s precedent?  Are there any valid reasons to criticize it?  Or should it simply be rejected based upon our own cultural bias?

 

I&#039;ll address this and other issues in this paper, and a discussion of the consequences of his deed as well.  However some fundamental groundwork needs to be laid before moving on.  Aisha&#039;s actual age is the first point that needs to be established.  Within the Islamic world there is division concerning Aisha&#039;s age when she sexually consummated her marriage.  Many Muslims in the West have a hard time accepting Aisha was only a little girl of 9 when their &quot;prophet&quot; had sex with her.  Some Muslims, and even Western writers, wrote that she did not have sex with Muhammad until she was 14 or so.  I&#039;ve never seen any textual Islamic support for their position, only conjecture.  But the thought of their prophet committing such an act is embarrassing to them, so they invent, or re-write, documented Islamic history to make it more acceptable to their minds and the minds of other Western people as well.

 


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EVIDENCE THAT AISHA WAS 9 WHEN HER MARRIAGE TO MUHAMMAD WAS CONSUMMATED

 

There are a number of sources, all written by Muslims, that detail Muhammad&#039;s marriage and consummation with his young child-bride - Aisha.

 

 

FROM THE HADITH OF SAHIH BUKHARI

 

I have used Bukhari&#039;s Hadith, translated into English by Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan, at the Islamic University in Medina.  Bukhari&#039;s Hadith is considered authentic by the majority of Sunni Islamic scholars.  It is second to the Quran in terms of importance. The central figure to approve and sign the translation is Dr. Amin Al-Masri, Ph.D. Cambridge University.  He is the Advisor and Head of the Sharia Dept., at the College of Sharia and Islamic Studies in Mecca.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Läs nedan , vad säger du om att di profet var en pedofil.</p>
<p>MUHAMMAD, AISHA, ISLAM, AND CHILD BRIDES</p>
<p>            INTRODUCTION</p>
<p>Muhammad was 52 and Aisha was 9 when they married and sexually consummated their marriage.  Muhammad followed an Arab custom in marrying a child who had her first menstrual cycle.  This action must be questioned, regardless of it being a cultural norm, because Muhammad&#8217;s action and teachings on marriage established an Islamic precedent:  a girl is judged an adult following her first menses, and is eligible for marriage and sexual relations.  Thus Muslim men are allowed to marry and have intercourse with young girls who have happened to have an early first menstrual cycle.  As will be shown, this leads to physical and psychological damage to the child.</p>
<p>Muhammad&#8217;s first wife &#8211; Khadija, died a few years before he fled to Medina.  Later, he was encouraged to take another wife.  At the age of 49 he was betrothed to Aisha, age six.  Aisha was his closest friend&#8217;s, Abu Bakr&#8217;s, daughter.  At that time, she had already been betrothed to another man but by mutual consent the betrothal was dissolved.  Three years later, following her first menstrual cycle, he then formally married and sexually consummated his marriage with her. </p>
<p>Most Western people know it is not in a 9 year old girl&#8217;s best interest to engage in marriage and sexual relations with a 52 year old man, regardless of the cultural setting.  We know that, in our culture today, a person doing such a thing could possible be sent to prison for sex with a minor, statutory rape, or other related laws.  Most of us find it questionable for Muhammad, a self proclaimed prophet of God, to do such a thing.  We expect a real prophet to know better, or at least hear from God on the matter.</p>
<p> What is more critical than Muhammad&#8217;s single action with Aisha is that he taught that a girl is considered an adult following her first menstrual cycle.  He also taught that his followers were to follow his &#8221;sunnah&#8221; or lifestyle.  Thus today, throughout much of the Mideast, girls as young as nine are often married by men old enough to be their grandfather.</p>
<p>But why then do we find it objectionable?   After all, Muhammad did not live in our culture or under our law.  He lived under a Semitic culture.  And this custom of marrying girls after their first menses existed in the Mideast long before Muhammad.  What is the basis for rejection of this Semite custom and Muhammad&#8217;s precedent?  Are there any valid reasons to criticize it?  Or should it simply be rejected based upon our own cultural bias?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll address this and other issues in this paper, and a discussion of the consequences of his deed as well.  However some fundamental groundwork needs to be laid before moving on.  Aisha&#8217;s actual age is the first point that needs to be established.  Within the Islamic world there is division concerning Aisha&#8217;s age when she sexually consummated her marriage.  Many Muslims in the West have a hard time accepting Aisha was only a little girl of 9 when their &#8221;prophet&#8221; had sex with her.  Some Muslims, and even Western writers, wrote that she did not have sex with Muhammad until she was 14 or so.  I&#8217;ve never seen any textual Islamic support for their position, only conjecture.  But the thought of their prophet committing such an act is embarrassing to them, so they invent, or re-write, documented Islamic history to make it more acceptable to their minds and the minds of other Western people as well.</p>
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<p>EVIDENCE THAT AISHA WAS 9 WHEN HER MARRIAGE TO MUHAMMAD WAS CONSUMMATED</p>
<p>There are a number of sources, all written by Muslims, that detail Muhammad&#8217;s marriage and consummation with his young child-bride &#8211; Aisha.</p>
<p>FROM THE HADITH OF SAHIH BUKHARI</p>
<p>I have used Bukhari&#8217;s Hadith, translated into English by Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan, at the Islamic University in Medina.  Bukhari&#8217;s Hadith is considered authentic by the majority of Sunni Islamic scholars.  It is second to the Quran in terms of importance. The central figure to approve and sign the translation is Dr. Amin Al-Masri, Ph.D. Cambridge University.  He is the Advisor and Head of the Sharia Dept., at the College of Sharia and Islamic Studies in Mecca.</p>
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		<title>Av: Muhammed Ali</title>
		<link>http://www.vilks.net/2007/08/22/del-370-innanfor-och-utanfor-konstvarlden/comment-page-1/#comment-32867</link>
		<dc:creator>Muhammed Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 17:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Till sara johansson och alla
Läs innan diskutera och fyll ditt huvud.
http://www.islameyat.com/english/issues/issues.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Till sara johansson och alla<br />
Läs innan diskutera och fyll ditt huvud.<br />
<a href="http://www.islameyat.com/english/issues/issues.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.islameyat.com/english/issues/issues.htm</a></p>
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		<title>Av: sara johansson</title>
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		<dc:creator>sara johansson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 17:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Är du sjuk i huvudet eller ? förstår du inte vad du skriver om ? vet du vad ordet pedofil betyder din idiot. Gå och fyll på ditt ordförråd !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Är du sjuk i huvudet eller ? förstår du inte vad du skriver om ? vet du vad ordet pedofil betyder din idiot. Gå och fyll på ditt ordförråd !</p>
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		<title>Av: Muhammed Ali</title>
		<link>http://www.vilks.net/2007/08/22/del-370-innanfor-och-utanfor-konstvarlden/comment-page-1/#comment-32851</link>
		<dc:creator>Muhammed Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 15:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Till Aslan !
Vem sa att Muhammed är en profet, Han är bara en tjuv och pedofil. läs den Kuran först för att förstå Muhammeds verklighet. bli inte blind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Till Aslan !<br />
Vem sa att Muhammed är en profet, Han är bara en tjuv och pedofil. läs den Kuran först för att förstå Muhammeds verklighet. bli inte blind.</p>
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		<title>Av: Farfour</title>
		<link>http://www.vilks.net/2007/08/22/del-370-innanfor-och-utanfor-konstvarlden/comment-page-1/#comment-32849</link>
		<dc:creator>Farfour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 15:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jag tycker att det är förfärligt av dig att skända profeten Mohammed. Jag vill verkligen protestera. Häromdagen hade jag kontakt med en dotter till en muslims familj i Egypten som berättade för mig att hon grät när hon fick reda på hur profeten (frid vare med honom) hånats i en Svensk tidning. Hon trodde också att gud kommer att straffa de som ligger bakom (dig bland annat) och hon kunde inte förstå varför profeten hånas offentligt i Sverige samtidigt som andra religioners profeter inte hånas i Muslimska länder.

Allah den allsmäktige kommer att straffa dig och de politiker som har makt att stoppa smutskastningen av profeten Mohammed men inte gör någonting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jag tycker att det är förfärligt av dig att skända profeten Mohammed. Jag vill verkligen protestera. Häromdagen hade jag kontakt med en dotter till en muslims familj i Egypten som berättade för mig att hon grät när hon fick reda på hur profeten (frid vare med honom) hånats i en Svensk tidning. Hon trodde också att gud kommer att straffa de som ligger bakom (dig bland annat) och hon kunde inte förstå varför profeten hånas offentligt i Sverige samtidigt som andra religioners profeter inte hånas i Muslimska länder.</p>
<p>Allah den allsmäktige kommer att straffa dig och de politiker som har makt att stoppa smutskastningen av profeten Mohammed men inte gör någonting.</p>
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		<title>Av: Aslan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aslan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 13:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>En troende är inte enfelsökare och inte oförskämd eller ohyfsad.(Profeten Muhammed)

Jag sändes till mänskligheten som en nåd och inte som en förbannelse..(Profeten Muhammed)

En stark person är inte en som kan slåss. En stark person är en som kan behärska sin vrede..(Profeten Muhammed)

Den som saknar välvilja, saknar all godhet. .(Profeten Muhammed) Som du Lars!

Frukta gud var en du befinner dig, och följ upp en dålig handling men en god - den senare raderar den förre- och uppträd väl mot människor..(Profeten Muhammed)

Gud Den Allsmäktige visar Sin Nåd endast mot de barmhärtiga. Var barmhärtiga mot dem på jorden, så att de i himlarna är barmhärtiga mot dig..(Profeten Muhammed)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>En troende är inte enfelsökare och inte oförskämd eller ohyfsad.(Profeten Muhammed)</p>
<p>Jag sändes till mänskligheten som en nåd och inte som en förbannelse..(Profeten Muhammed)</p>
<p>En stark person är inte en som kan slåss. En stark person är en som kan behärska sin vrede..(Profeten Muhammed)</p>
<p>Den som saknar välvilja, saknar all godhet. .(Profeten Muhammed) Som du Lars!</p>
<p>Frukta gud var en du befinner dig, och följ upp en dålig handling men en god &#8211; den senare raderar den förre- och uppträd väl mot människor..(Profeten Muhammed)</p>
<p>Gud Den Allsmäktige visar Sin Nåd endast mot de barmhärtiga. Var barmhärtiga mot dem på jorden, så att de i himlarna är barmhärtiga mot dig..(Profeten Muhammed)</p>
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